April 12, 2014

Just WTH Is It With Feds And Guns?

Just WTH is it with Feds and guns? If this isn't a love/hate relationship I don't know what is. First they try to take them away from law abiding citizens but can't wait to get their hands on them for themselves.

EXCLUSIVE: The director of the Federal Air Marshal Service is retiring after being investigated for his role in an alleged operation to acquire guns for officials' personal use, has learned.

Director Robert Bray's home was raided in December in connection with the ongoing probe, according to sources and documents. Law enforcement and congressional sources told that Bray's recently announced retirement, which is effective in June, is directly related to the investigation.

Transportation Security Administration officials say no such raid ever happened.

But Bray allegedly is among several officials who were obtaining weapons through this operation.

The probe stems from whistleblower accusations involving federal Air Marshal supervisor Danny Poulos. Sources say the Department of Homeland Security inspector general is involved, and possibly the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. TSA officials disputed that those agencies are involved, but acknowledged that there is an internal review underway by the TSA Office of Inspection into the supervisor's alleged activity.

The supervisor, a TSA official confirmed to, is "on administrative leave."

Poulos is accused of using the agency's federal firearms license and his relationship with gun manufacturer Sig Sauer to obtain discounted and free guns. He then provided them to high-up agency officials for their personal use, according to whistleblower documents obtained by and interviews with multiple officials with knowledge of the ongoing probe.
There's big bucks involved in equipping an agency with handguns. These weapons are not cheap.
The Air Marshal Service, as part of their expansion following the 9/11 terror attacks, adopted the SIG P229 handgun and has used the system across its ranks, which swelled to nearly 5,000 agents. Bray accepted the position of director of the agency in 2008. The following year the AMS announced a switch to the SIG P250 despite the fact that other federal law enforcement agencies rejected the gun after it failed performance testing.
The P250 is a subcompact that may not meet rigid government requirements for any number of reasons. Sig makes a very decent, high quality handgun but that particular configuration may only be suitable for air marshals concealed carry. IMHO as an undercover or off-duty weapon, it would be ok, but that's just me. I carry a .357 or .45, nothing less.

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LL said...

I don't know how corrupt this is. Historically Sig, S & W and a lot of other manufacturers provide handguns to large agencies for demonstration purposes free or at a vastly reduced rate. It's a sales thing.

If this guy is then SELLING firearms that the department received free, I see a problem. If he's not personally profiting from actual sales and is simply issuing demonstration models to other people in his LE food chain who are in the decision process - - who cares?

What the difference is between issuing a handgun that is either in common use or under evaluation to somebody in an LE agency for "personal use" and "official use".

I'm not taking a shot at "you" personally on your blog. I simply don't get the intrigue given the stories that are out there.

sig94 said...

My agency prosecuted a firearms rep last year for shady dealings involving firearms. It didn't involve the same types of dealing that the Sig Sauer people may have encouraged but it did set my up radar up for gun manufacturers.

In addition, as far as I know, the info on this investigation did not become public until the head of the Air Marshals announced his retirement. His appointment, the Sig Sauer deal, the investigation and his retirement occurred within a very narrow "federal" window if you get my drift. The whole thing just stinks to me. As the head of an agency he really should know better.

Of course it could be that I'm just a suspicious, nasty son of a gun anyway.

Woodsterman (Odie) said...

It takes a special nut job to work for some federal agencies, then arm them ......

Doom said...

I honestly agree with LL on this one. However, I am "grooving" on what you are saying Sig. My guess is? This was the official line. The actual problem was not disclosed, since he fell on his sword. As corrupt as upper bureaucrats all seem to be these days, it honestly probably is more about politics, than crime. It's just choosing which crime, or even which to use and which to make public. Sorry, but I have lost all faith in this government, even before this admin but this admin seems to be advocating the worst of an already untrustworthy system. Fire them all, literally, and start from scratch, undoing the laws that give them this kind of power on the way.


I would laugh but I am too busy crying. No joke there. But... still... We are learning why Russian peasants have such a grim grin on their faces, and have for a thousand years.