August 8, 2014

Urkel Bombs Erbil

AN F-18 drops guided munitions

We're back in the game?
The United States dropped laser-guided bombs on ISIS artillery in Iraq on Friday, the Pentagon said — the beginning of airstrikes threatened a day earlier by President Barack Obama.

The bombs, 500 pounds each, were dropped by two Navy F-18 fighter jets near Erbil, the strategically important city that serves as the Kurdish capital, and where the United States has a consulate. ISIS was using the artillery to shell Kurdish forces defending Erbil, the Pentagon said.
 ISIL artillery is being used to kill and conquer Iraqi territory ...
Oh, nevermind, it's our artillery, it just does that automatically.
The strikes marked a return to U.S. military engagement in Iraq, three years after Obama removed U.S. forces.

Obama, in a speech Thursday night from the White House, said that he was authorizing airstrikes to protect American interests in Iraq and drops of food and water for tens of thousands of refugees trapped by ISIS on a mountain in Iraq.

Rear Adm. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said Friday: “As the president made clear, the United States military will continue to take direct action against ISIL when they threaten our personnel and facilities.” ISIS and ISIL are acronyms to describe the same Islamic militant group.
Story here and here.

Just a thought - how did the ISIS manage to roll up the Iraqi army after years of US training?
Iraqi soldiers who fled ISIS advance accuse officers of treason
Iraqi soldiers deny abandoning their posts following ISIS advance

Erbil, Asharq Al-Awsat—Iraqi troops who fled the advance of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters into Mosul have denied that they abandoned their posts, saying that they had received orders to flee from up the chain of command.
Another thought - firing an accurate artillery barrage is not like firing a rifle. It takes training and logistics. Where did these savages learn to fire sophisticated modern artillery?  (This link is interesting)
[...]there's been an influx of skilled Saddam-era military leaders and soldiers into ISIS' ranks. "When you look at some of the reports about the leadership under [ISIS commander Abu Bakr] al-Baghdadi," Rosenblatt said, "those second-in-command guys have very strong ties to Saddam's army." Acquiring lots of weapons, money, and experience over the course of the Syrian war allowed them to translate that new training into real military effectiveness.
Just one more thought - What can slow the advance of ISIS forces? ISIS is now messing with the Kurds and the US may finally be rousing from its sleep.
[...]an unexpected military intervention by a third party. The semi-autonomous Kurdish area in northwest Iraq is adjacent to ISIS' stronghold. Their powerful military, which has already had small clashes with ISIS-aligned forces, could challenge ISIS. And who knows what effect a large-scale American air campaign against ISIS would have on the balance of power.


Capt. Schmoe said...

Obama is in a very difficult spot. He has committed advisers and now aircraft in an attempt to prevent the total collapse of the Iraqi army.

The current army was trained and supported by an immense coalition effort over at least eight years, apparently an effort that was not enough. The limited effort now in place will have little or no effect in the outcome.

Obama has a very difficult decision ahead - increase the aid and support and commit it to many many more years or let Iraq go and become a caliphate.

Like Gitmo,health care and a myriad of other subjects, he is finding out that the dream and the reality are two different things.

sig94 said...

Schmoe - very true. It's not that I disagree with his decision to bomb ISIS positions, I just think that whatever he does it will be messed up. I believe he has deliberately eliminated many of the true warriors we used to have in the Pentagon.

Kid said...

I have it on good authority that Maliki removed all the COs and NCOs that we trained over those 7 years.
Which is why the remaining cub scouts turned and ran.

But yea, you're in it now. Protect this group and you're predisposed to protect every group threatened by these vermin (I said that in 2004 btw)
Leaving the obvious hypocrisy of (defending people against genocide) this is a situation where groups like IS and ISIL need to be wiped out NOW. Otherwise they will expand to supremacy over the entire ME.
They've done it before. This is not the time for a pushing and shoving match. Kill those MFs. Every last one.

Anam Cara said...

Eventually they will reach Turkey.l. Perhaps then NATO will kick in.

sig94 said...

Kid - aside from the threat to the Christians r our formally recognized allies, I say let them kill each other. They've been doing that for centuries.

Get our people out and let the bodies hit the floor. As long as they dont mess with us or ours, we don't bomb them.

sig94 said...

Anam - you mess with the Turks you better have a bigger ass than ISIL. Heh. I almost would enjoy watching that show.