August 16, 2014

Police Killings in America

Typical biased, breathless bulls**t reporting by the media.
This is USA Today's fecal offering:
WASHINGTON — Nearly two times a week in the United States, a white police officer killed a black person during a seven-year period ending in 2012, according to the most recent accounts of justifiable homicide reported to the FBI.

On average, there were 96 such incidents among at least 400 police killings each year that were reported to the FBI by local police. The numbers appear to show that the shooting of a black teenager in Ferguson, Mo., last Saturday was not an isolated event in American policing.
Indeed, on the average, 400 people per year are killed by police officers. But this includes all law enforcement personnel, not just locals. And for USA Today to claim that only white police officers are shooting felons is utter trash. There are 430,000 police officers in the US; over 200,000 of them work in cities with a population of 100,000 and over. This is unbelievable. The US Department of Justice Statistics reports, "About 1 in 4 officers were members of a racial or ethnic minority in 2007..." No black officers exercised deadly physical force?

But the police are not the only ones exercising the use of deadly physical force to defend themselves.
Private citizens are also finding themselves in the same situation where they take the life of a felon.

This chart shows the trend for the number of justified homicides  (always investigated by a grand jury or coroner's inquest) by police and private citizens for the past ten years:

Look at the red trend line. In ten years the increase in the number of justified homicides by private citizens is over two and a half times higher (26%) than the police (10%). And if you examine the two five year averages (2003-2007 v. 2008-2012) the citizen involved killings increased three times faster than those of the police (7% v. 20%).

In one year alone (2011 to 2012) the number of felons killed by citizens increased by 15% (from 270 to 310).

Year    Police  Citizen
2003        373          247
2004        367          222
2005        347          196
2006        386          238
2007        391          257
2008        378          265
2009        414          266
2010        397          285
2011        404          270
2012        410          310
(Source: FBI's UCR Expanded Homicides Table 13, 14 & 15 for 2007 and 2012. 
These tables DO NOT capture the race/gender of the felon killed or the officer involved.)

USA Today then manages to smear turd icing on their news cake with this gem:
About 750 agencies contribute to the database, a fraction of the 17,000 law enforcement agencies in the United States.
Several media outlets have reported on this so called study and none of them indicate where the study can be found or how the database was complied. If only 750 police agencies reported, then I can only assume that some dipshit university professor wanted to do a study and asked LEA's to send him the information. Of course they flipped him off.

What a bunch of crap. There are over 400 police agencies in New York alone that report monthly UCR numbers to the NYS Division of Criminal Justice Services which are then transmitted to the FBI. These statistics incorporate police use of force. That's where the feds get their information.

Is this an infallible system? Of course not. But to print that only 4% of all law enforcement agencies report as required is not only reckless, it's libelous.


Doom said...

Good for you. I am pleased to see you defending cops. As with the military, the media is an enemy. That makes the media an enemy of civilization.

If anything, the stats you are using show that cops use extreme constraint. LEO's deal with criminals daily, generally, citizens don't. If you increased the amount of contact, by typical citizens, there would be a lot more dead criminals. Another thought to consider.

As to that last thought being right or wrong, I have to think that it means officers are doing their jobs, not their wants. In that sense, I have to think it is right. Just as the military is there to win, not to enact genocide. The difference can seem subtle, but it really isn't. Only a liberal mind could see the variations as interchangeable. Which is probably why they are anti-gun, they think everyone else is a psychopathic as they are.

sig94 said...

Doom - I hate sloppy work. If the cops are to blame then by all means bring it out into the open and kick ass. But this knee jerk crap just pisses me off. These so called reporters are just lazy and their editors who approve it are worse.

As a division commander I had to deal with the press all the time. They are truly useless for the most part. Even now and then you'd get a good, honest, hard working reporter and I didn't mind helping them out with a story. Just tell the truth.

Doom said...

Laziness isn't always a simple vice. Quite often it is a chosen method of showing preference. I agree about dealing with the truth, but not negotiating with criminals and terrorists, especially when that endangers the officer and his family.

I am really annoyed about Ferguson, especially if it turns out, as I suspect it will, that the punk did strong-arm, and then did resist with what could be reasonably considered an attempt at a lethal act, such as going for the officers gun. And watching the media stir the pot, as usual.

Lazy? That doesn't cut it.

Gorges Smythe said...

AS GROUPS (not individuals) I don't like cops, media people OR felons. There are some people in all groups that are good decent people, but they're in the minority.

Doom said...


Toss in politicians, doctors, academics, blue collar, white collar, the faithful, the secular, and... pretty much every other group and... I'll second that. Thankfully, mankind as with most, is greater in the whole than in parts.

I do have a prejudices beyond, though. Nephilim simply do not like those bearing the Mark of Cain. They hide behind their mark, use it as an excuse to do what they do. We do not hide, so strong not even the angels could fix it. Took God and a flood. And while I have separated from my kin, in kneeling to Christ, my old distaste remains. I have learned to love men, through God. But have no interest or want of loving the others, quite often, if with some difficulty, eschewing my own. My kind are, generally, elitist. And, if there was no God, would be the next, and very terrible, in line.*

(*story time, sort of)

WoFat said...

Perhaps, maybe, certain levels of crime are going up. In the current hoo-haa the slain (poor and innocent) subject was robing a grocery store only minutes before meeting up with the cop who killed him. Perhaps - only conjecture at this point - the robber thought the police were after him and jumped the cop. Maybe. Perhaps. What is needed - but NEVER forthcoming - is an unbiased witness or two. What we do know is that a bunch of small-town police are not capable of handling a major confrontation.

sig94 said...

My primary concern is that things are heating up. Look at the justified shootings by citizens. Now some of this is probably due to "castle" legislation in some states but I think it is due to more and more violent activity being met by armed citizens.

The only reason why the homicide rates are not sky high is that our EMT response and ER technology has improved exponentially over the past few decades.

Studies have indicated that the homicide rate should be much, much higher. Just the number of people receiving serious gunshot wounds increased by almost 50% between 2001 and 2010 (from about 20,000 per year to 30,000) while the number of murders have decreased by 9% (from 16,000 to 14,600).

Doom said...

The thing is, the right ones seem to be being killed. Demographically speaking, this is a very good trend. My worry is that that multiculturally and racially focused bean counters and bureaucrats infect any data they get near, similar to ebola. So I am not sure if the data is clean. And, no, I don't even trust the FBI, Census Bureau (which is totally political at this point), or the other old standbys. Still, I think it is, mostly true as you suggest. As long as you are sifting the data, and finding social sampling from other reliable sources.

I don't mind the bad guys dying. I just wish that those who use a gun to defend themselves would become better shots. The predators seem to be a small but very virulent group. Well supported in their *cough* communities, but with enough of them going down, it simply doesn't matter. Until the war between 1st and 3rd worlders. It is inevitable but should be quick and rather one-sided.